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What Are You Buying: Talon 1000R or Talon 1000X?

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Now that all the details have dropped on both models (which aren't far off from eachother) what is your level of fun factor directing you to, the 1000R or 1000X? Starting this thread off, after watching initial reviews the 1000x look good enough to me, and upfitting is possible if it comes down to that.

Let see where we stand as a community...

 

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I'm leaning towards the X as well, for the sole fact that it will be move maneuverable through the trails. Don't see the need to spend more for a wider track and slightly tweaked suspension.
 

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I'm leaning towards the X as well, for the sole fact that it will be move maneuverable through the trails. Don't see the need to spend more for a wider track and slightly tweaked suspension.
Likewise. There are certain hardcore enthusiasts that use these to an extreme extent, climbing up steep inclines and so on but for the trails around my cottage, hunting zones and a property we have, the X is like an R to me already
 

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Going to have to wait and see what official pricing is like. I would be interested in the R if it could be bought for less than $20k all in.
 

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The new RZR 570 looks okay, but its only a few grand more to get something that's nearly twice as powerful. Don't know if its worth the additional development costs.
 

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Going with a X. Here in Wisconsin you can only register the R for use on private land. It's to wide for trails. 65 inch max and don't see it changing. Honda of Canada didn't even bring any R's to Canada for selling.
 

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I have talon X. it has Double-wishbone front suspension, Fox Podium 2.5 shocks with Quick Switch 3, 17.7 inches of travel. 4+ Link trailing-arm rear suspension with toe link, Fox Podium 2.5 shocks with Quick Switch 3, 20.1 inches of travel
Either you have the R or you have the specs confused.😀
 

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I'm shopping for an X. I like all the suspension I can get, but it's already hard enough to find trails for machines over 50/60", with 65" trails cutting off access for the R. In Texas, options are few, especially if you're not into mudding. I'm hoping I can live with the X suspension. Trail access, and tight quarter maneuverability were two big factors for me.
 

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If you don't have restrictions on width, then the R has a much better ride. I had a RZR 800 and put elka shocks on it. I thought I had the best ride, until I test drove the RZR1000. I later had the Walker Evans shocks re-valved, installed "walker links" on the sway bar and put Eibach springs on it. That took the bucking away when traversing whoop di doos and gave me a plush ride.

I test drove the Talon X and R on a no shit trail ride put on by Honda in Moab. The X has plenty of power but the suspension rode like a RZR 800/900. The R rode better than my RZR 1000 with upgraded suspension. In fact I afterwards drove my RZR 1000 on the same trails we test drove on, the Talon R was far superior in ride. The anti lock braking, 6 speed transmission with high and low sealed the deal. I have over 700 miles on the R now and did a test running the same bad trail with a brand new Polaris RZR Pro Ultimate and my Talon R. The Ultimate had a better ride because of Dynamix (aka: Fox live valve electronically control suspension) but at $33K vs 21K and still having a belt and clutch, I found the TalonR more responsive in the type normal trail acceleration than the Ultimate. If you want to drag race or run sand dunes, the Ultimate with 180HP might be your ride.

There is a bad stretch of woops I drove over, not knowing how the R would handle it I thought what the heck. So at 40-45 mph I hit the woops of various size 2 - 4 foot and it sucked them right up, no bucking!! I was impressed. Then I noticed I was approaching a rather deep dip, I tensed for the inevitable, it rolled right through it no drama! That is right out of the box suspension!

The only improvement would be Fox Live Valve, and Honda is only offering that on the 4 seat X...really stupid.
 

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I am looking to purchase a Talon but am unsure about the X or the R. Watched several videos on both. I live in So Cal but am not a speed freak. I am hearing the R is not as good on trails at lower speeds? I like to go fast when I feel safe. I am very cautious driver, maybe due to my age. The X seems like it might be better for me but I want smoothest ride I can get. It Sounds like the X is more maneuverable at low speeds? As you can tell I’m torn between the two.
 

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If you want a great trail machine with an excellent ride, buy the R. If you want a ride like a Polaris 800, buy the X . I test drove both and the R knocked my socks off. I had a RZR 1000 with custom suspension, the X was not impressive. The R out of the box was better. You aren't width restricted where you live , trust me get the R.

I am all about the best, smoothest ride. They both maneuver the same at slow speed, the R with a better ride throughout. When you get on a rough trail, you will wish you had the long travel suspension of the R.
 

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Thanks for the feedback. I actually have a RZR 800 and it killed my back at the desert a few weeks ago. Does the R turn quickly? I heard people saying the turning radius is big. Do you know if there is any difference between the 2019 and 2020 models. I am seeing some fairly good deals on the 2019’s.
 

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Thanks for the feedback. I actually have a RZR 800 and it killed my back at the desert a few weeks ago. Does the R turn quickly? I heard people saying the turning radius is big. Do you know if there is any difference between the 2019 and 2020 models. I am seeing some fairly good deals on the 2019’s.
The turning radius is not as good as your 800, but better than a 4 seater. A valid complaint. I have 1200 miles and I've only encountered a couple of tight corners where I had to do 3 point turns. (Switch back steep mountain trail for one) Some rides I'll notice on particularly curving trails (desert rider also) I'll be lock to lock, but going around the turns fine. Are you sure the X doesn't have the same turn radius? I didn't notice it when I did a test ride, only after I bought it. In any case, the ride is still worth the wider turn radius than my RZR had.

There are supposed to be a couple of changes, I haven't been able to get definitive answers, I heard they changed the direction coolant flows in the 20. Though the 20 has a problem with a leaking left front differential, which mine is back in the shop for the second time now. I thought I was being smart buying the second year🤔. I haven't seen anything in the forums though. I think I would go for the deals and use the savings for accessories 😝. If you are thinking full windshield, it generates a vortex which brings dust in from the back, guys in the forums have countered that with rear windows. I have the flip up windshield from Super ATV. I just bought, but haven't installed the Aegis air spoiler, which is supposed to help keep the dust from coming in when I close my windshield.

Have you had an opportunity to ride either one on trails? The only way to beat the ride in the R is to buy the Polaris RZR pro with the Dynamix suspension. $20k vs $32k for the pro. Why Honda isn't offering the Fox live valve on the R is beyond comprehension. Fox won't sell them after market, Honda is controlling that. Putting it on the 4 seater X without long travel suspension and not the R makes no sense.

Since ride is important to you as it is for me, the seat bottom is surprisingly comfortable in absorbing the bumps. The seat back doesn't have much give, but I like the angle/support. I replaced my seats in the RZR with PRP, I don't think I will replace these. The ride actually improves if you give it some gas, which is counterintuitive. Learning to accelerate prior to some bumps extends the front suspension so as you go through a dip it doesn't jar unless it's very sharp at the bottom. I tried that with the X, it doesn't work since its not long travel. But rolling through most v's can be done at 15 mph or better. Rough patches, whoops or wash board...get on it you'll be surprised what the suspension soaks up with some speed. Oh and I would run 6-8 psi in the stock tires, I run 8-10 in my 30" terrabite tires. Many folks run with too much air and that really can rough up a ride.

Good luck on your decision and I hope you get a killer deal!
 
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