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A buddy of mine recommended the terrabites highly, and many of our members put them on, so when I got my 2020 R, I never even rode the stock tires and wheels, just put 30x10x15 terrabites on System 3 bead lock rims.

After my first 100 mile ride, the left rear was way low on air. Took it in for first service and started riding. It was losing 9 pounds over night, so we took off the ring, cleaned it thoroughly, torqued it to specs (15 psi) meticulously and slowly tightening the ring first to 10 psi, then 15 psi. Leaked immediately all around the ring. Took it back off, cleaned it again, then applied heavy grease rinse repeat, no change. Talked to the shop who mounted them and learned they had some other instances of problems with the terrabites on bead locks. Contacted Rocky Mountain and they opened a warranty and sent me a FedEx slip to ship back. As I kept riding all of the tires kept leaking, I contacted Rocky Mountain and they credited me for the first tire said they wouldn't do anything on the others. They said bead locks leak.

Tried Yamalube, Xtra Bead Seal (Sloped on after first attempt showed still leaking) no luck, still a constant slow leak.

The tires perform well, accurate handling, good ride (Started at 16, then 12 now I am at 9 pounds and that gives me an excellent ride). Great traction in deep sand, rocky mix, climbing and down hill loose material, hardpack slick dirt roads, no complaints at all, I like them. But, I have had it with having to fill them before every ride, even the next day.

Just dropped it at the shop to put the terrabites on my stock rims.

Anyone else having that problem when mounted on bead locks?
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It is leaking all around the outer bead. My shop measured the tire and it is too thin, so the rings can't compress it against the wheel to make an air tight seal.
 

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HavasuDave...

I hate to say it but RockyMountainATVMC is right, for the most part beadlocks leak in particular if THEY mounted them. However, if they were put on so that each bolt was tighted only 1 or 2 times, they may have bent the rim. Never have them or a dealer attach the rings, always do beadlocks yourself. It takes a while.
You might want to try:
1) Remove the beadlock bolts, rings, clean the threads,
2) Clean with dish soap /water mix. The tire bead on both sides must be spotless
3) Take a grey sharpy pen and number each bolt holes across from each other going in a star pattern.
4) Torque the bolts no more than 5 foot pounds each and go all the way around hitting all the numbers in sequence. Increase the torque another 5 ft-lbs and do it again. Repeat this until you get to the spec'ed toque settings. So for Raceline wheels you would do this 4 times.
5) You have to check your beadlocks all the time, in particular if you go from cold to hot conditions.

I have fixed many friends leaking beadlocks by cleaning them, and torq'ing the bolts slowly in small increments but it is a pain.

From my experience, I have been very frustrated with many beadlock rims, including OEM rims and many different machines. I have found OMF to be top notch, Alba racing , and Raceline (great price point) to make great beadlocks that seal very well but those are generally very thick and wide rings for their wheels. They also use large bolt sizes too. Racelines give you extra threaded holes in case you strip out or bash off too many bolts. I can not speak for other wheel brands, but I try to stick with lightweight wheels.

This time around, I chose NOT to go with beadlocks because I wanted a wheel under 13 pounds on the Talon due to it's unique handling and was not willing to buy the OMF's this time, so I went with the Method wheels that have the bead grip technology. Fingers crossed. However, I carry a spare. Honestly, in the desert I feel I may have made a mistake, but it's also nice not fuss with beadlocks all the time. BeadLocks work if you get a good thick ring design that is also wide , check them and keep them clean.
 

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HavasuDave...

I hate to say it but RockyMountainATVMC is right, for the most part beadlocks leak in particular if THEY mounted them. However, if they were put on so that each bolt was tighted only 1 or 2 times, they may have bent the rim. Never have them or a dealer attach the rings, always do beadlocks yourself. It takes a while.
You might want to try:
1) Remove the beadlock bolts, rings, clean the threads,
2) Clean with dish soap /water mix. The tire bead on both sides must be spotless
3) Take a grey sharpy pen and number each bolt holes across from each other going in a star pattern.
4) Torque the bolts no more than 5 foot pounds each and go all the way around hitting all the numbers in sequence. Increase the torque another 5 ft-lbs and do it again. Repeat this until you get to the spec'ed toque settings. So for Raceline wheels you would do this 4 times.
5) You have to check your beadlocks all the time, in particular if you go from cold to hot conditions.

I have fixed many friends leaking beadlocks by cleaning them, and torq'ing the bolts slowly in small increments but it is a pain.

From my experience, I have been very frustrated with many beadlock rims, including OEM rims and many different machines. I have found OMF to be top notch, Alba racing , and Raceline (great price point) to make great beadlocks that seal very well but those are generally very thick and wide rings for their wheels. They also use large bolt sizes too. Racelines give you extra threaded holes in case you strip out or bash off too many bolts. I can not speak for other wheel brands, but I try to stick with lightweight wheels.

This time around, I chose NOT to go with beadlocks because I wanted a wheel under 13 pounds on the Talon due to it's unique handling and was not willing to buy the OMF's this time, so I went with the Method wheels that have the bead grip technology. Fingers crossed. However, I carry a spare. Honestly, in the desert I feel I may have made a mistake, but it's also nice not fuss with beadlocks all the time. BeadLocks work if you get a good thick ring design that is also wide , check them and keep them clean.
thanks Scotty, you always have great advice. I wished I had gone the way you did with method. I wanted the method bead lock, but they didn't have it in the Honda bolt pattern for the one I wanted. I think you made a great choice. If you made it through the stuff you did in Moab and nothing popped off, it ain't going to pop off??. I really like the terrabites, a buddy just asked about getting them in 32" (which I should have done) I told him he should, since he's mounting them on the stock RZR pro rims.

I also think the system 3 wheels are well made, they have two sets of threaded holes also.
 

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thanks Scotty, you always have great advice. I wished I had gone the way you did with method. I wanted the method bead lock, but they didn't have it in the Honda bolt pattern for the one I wanted. I think you made a great choice. If you made it through the stuff you did in Moab and nothing popped off, it ain't going to pop off??. I really like the terrabites, a buddy just asked about getting them in 32" (which I should have done) I told him he should, since he's mounting them on the stock RZR pro rims.

I also think the system 3 wheels are well made, they have two sets of threaded holes also.
Ya, my buddy bought a Talon and put on 32's, but Terramasters and they barely weighed anymore than my 31's. I wished I had got those now.
I missed the sheep in the picture! Cool!
 

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Some tires just don't get along with some Beadlocks. Most of my experience is in the 4x4 world with larger tires, but it's the same concept. Often times those tires are too thick and need bead spacers, you have the opposite problem here.

First thing I would say is to just try and tighten them more. I know some will disagree, but I have always just used a Cordless impact with mine, never broken a bolt while tightening. Get some soap and water and see if you can tighten the areas that are leaking to get them to stop.

Next thing is just use some rtv, it kinda sucks, but not as much as leaky wheels. Apply it around the wheel where the outer bead is clamped. This is almost a guarantee to work, but I guess you never know.
 

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Hey guys, put some 30” terrabits on with fuel with fake fuel bead locks. Got to run them in mud and loose rock. I think they are a great tire they hook up well but throw a lot of mud and small rock ( like every good truck tire) . Hope I’m as happy when I take them to Moab later this year!
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Hey guys, put some 30” terrabits on with fuel with fake fuel bead locks. Got to run them in mud and loose rock. I think they are a great tire they hook up well but throw a lot of mud and small rock ( like every good truck tire) . Hope I’m as happy when I take them to Moab later this year!
You will like them a lot as an all around tire. I took mine to Moab including Hell's Gate and Moab Rim and scared the hell out of myself but the Terrabites never let me down.

However, they did perform best on the slick rock at 5/6 psi F/R. A 4 seater probably 6/7 psi but be careful running them that low without beadlocks.

I was too "involved" (OK scared) to take any vid of Moab Rim but here is my run up Hell's Gate. Sun was horrible and I couldn't see much and I almost lost it but those Terrabites held on and saved my ass...

 

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Salt City bud. Just spent the weekend in Soapstone Basin. A favorite go to for holiday weekends because of the space available. How about you?
 

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Salt Lake area as well. Haven't been able to go out much this year due to family circumstances but we like pretty much anywhere we can get away, see some nature and ride.

We spend a lot of time at the dunes in Juab County, Midway and a couple of the close lakes. Moab and Sand Hollow are my favorites and we try at least once a year. I want to try Ticaboo when we get a chance. It's been very difficult to venture out too far from home but hopefully headed up north through St. Anthony and Island Park Idaho, Yellowstone and into Montana for a couple weeks in August/September.

Bought a new 43' Toy Hauler last year before the prices went up and we are READY to go...

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Holy cow that’s a sweet trailer! Ever run out to knolls? It’s another favorite of are’s. Plenty of room and has sand and salt flats. Love the evenings out there(sunsets) black light scorpion hunting. It’s close like 1.5hrs at 65 mph. I tow the sxs behind are 30ft trailer and it is a straight easy tow and close. Has a few hidden gems like the Jeep post, water tank hill and the penny post.
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Salt Lake area as well. Haven't been able to go out much this year due to family circumstances but we like pretty much anywhere we can get away, see some nature and ride.

We spend a lot of time at the dunes in Juab County, Midway and a couple of the close lakes. Moab and Sand Hollow are my favorites and we try at least once a year. I want to try Ticaboo when we get a chance. It's been very difficult to venture out too far from home but hopefully headed up north through St. Anthony and Island Park Idaho, Yellowstone and into Montana for a couple weeks in August/September.

Bought a new 43' Toy Hauler last year before the prices went up and we are READY to go...

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Grand Design. I was looking at those earlier today, at a smaller version. IMO the best looking toy haul configuration out there.
 

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Holy cow that’s a sweet trailer! Ever run out to knolls? It’s another favorite of are’s. Plenty of room and has sand and salt flats. Love the evenings out there(sunsets) black light scorpion hunting. It’s close like 1.5hrs at 65 mph. I tow the sxs behind are 30ft trailer and it is a straight easy tow and close. Has a few hidden gems like the Jeep post, water tank hill and the penny post.
BIL took me there last year and honestly it was just "OK" for me. We tried to go to the dunes at the southern end but apparently the military closed it all off because it was an old bombing range and there are unexploded ordinances there. We had a good time but not sure I would go back there. There are equal or better places closer my home like American Fork Canyon and 5 mile pass and everything west of Utah Lake all the way to Little Moab and Eureka. And the dunes are a blast and only 90 minutes away...

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Grand Design. I was looking at those earlier today, at a smaller version. IMO the best looking toy haul configuration out there.
We do love our rig! It is built well but it is a bit of a monster (I have nicknamed it the "Behemoth"). Fully loaded with the Talon, water, fuel, etc. it comes in at 19,000 lbs. I don't travel with water so we are at 17,500 when traveling. This rig holds so much water, we still had 1/3 tank left after an 8 day trip to Flaming Gorge and I took a shower every night after riding in the dust all day!

I am lucky enough to travel and work so when we do get out (hopefully more now that our situation has improved for us) we can be gone long and make the best of it. Was doing that from a standard 5th wheel towing doubles and it worked but very uncomfortable and not really enough room for an actual "office" so we decided to get a toy hauler and I convert the garage into my office after the Talon is pulled out. In the summer, I go out in the early morning and ride, fire up the A/C and work during the day when it is too hot and go back out and ride in the evening after it cools down. In the early spring and late fall, I do the opposite. I make up my own hours so it really works really good for me.
 

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I have a ton of respect for you all on those rocks. I was part of building a plant in Spanish Fork 30 years ago off of I15 so have been very fortunate to travel back to Utah to the site over the years and spent a full weekend in MOAB last year with my work colleague in his RZR XP4 as a passenger on that hells gate, staircase, etc., stuff. TBH, scared shitless most of the weekend.
Got schooled on what I thought was impossible but with good tires, low pressure, skilled pilot - learned - kudos to you all!!!!
 
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