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Tranny tune is working like it should with lower down shift points it makes for some very smooth down shifts. Launch mode is easy to use and works great.
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So what does it do? Is it the power vision 3? Did you also do the exhaust?
It gives you launch mode, and it lowers the RPM at which your transmission down shifts so that when you get off the gas and start to slow down the transmission will down shift smoothly instead of lurching you forward every time it shifts down. I have been testing it for Dynojet. The Launch mode works Great and it is really easy to do. Yes it will be available for the power vision 3 or any of the other tuners they sell. It might already be available on their site i'm not sure, you can check. Yes i did put Exhaust on put it does not require a tune as it is only a claimed 4 HP gain. The exhaust sounds Very nice indeed.
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It gives you launch mode, and it lowers the RPM at which your transmission down shifts so that when you get off the gas and start to slow down the transmission will down shift smoothly instead of lurching you forward every time it shifts down. I have been testing it for Dynojet. The Launch mode works Great and it is really easy to do. Yes it will be available for the power vision 3 or any of the other tuners they sell. It might already be available on their site i'm not sure, you can check. Yes i did put Exhaust on put it does not require a tune as it is only a claimed 4 HP gain. The exhaust sounds Very nice indeed. View attachment 284
No they don't have anything on the site that I can find. So is it something you change in the transmission, or is it like a tuner that changes the programming?
 

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It is a tune that replaces the stock file in the ecu. When they release it you would have to buy one of their Dynojet tuners and I think the actual Transmission tune will come with it. I just check the site and you are correct they have not released it yet. You will also be able to get engine tunes as well.
 

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So what does it do? Is it the power vision 3? Did you also do the exhaust?
The Power Vision 3 is available . Talon 1000x with full performance exhaust from HMF, Snorkel from Warrior, and Throttle Body Plate replacement from pwrTune. Power Vision was from HMF and came with tune for their exhaust, picked up the tune from pwrTune their Stage 3INT + Full Exhaust / Intake Mod covered all of the mods and was built on the HMP full performance exhaust and is doing fine so far. In addition, HMF welded a second bung (no charge) for the wideband) 2 sensor. The Power Vision can display 4 different gauges simultaneously and you can select form a total of 4 different displays -- I was amazed at all of the items you can monitor in real time and the added benefit of logging data and sending it to your tuner as well. Inspected the plugs after 50 hours and no problems with ceramic isolators and color looked fine. NOTE: When you change tunes it does run funny for a couple of minutes then settles down and AFR and Lamda move to where they should be -- may backfire one or two times.

Hay Idiot, I have not used the launch mode all of the power gained from the tune I gave back when I installed the 35x10x15x warriors but I do like the new ride. I must admit using launch with the tires might be rough on the clutch and not sure if I want to even go there. What do you think?

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Yes I have the power vision 3 tuner, it was given to me by Dynojet to test their new Transmission tune.
 

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picked up the tune from pwrTune their Stage 3INT + Full Exhaust / Intake Mod covered all of the mods and was built on the HMP full performance exhaust and is doing fine so far.
Careful with that pwrTune, mine appears to be running lean with a very similar setup/tune so I mounted my gopro and went for a spin. My pipes are glowing cherry red all the way to the mufflers. Andy says this is normal, HMF says it is not so I invested in a Wide Band and will be taking some readings as soon as I get the Bung welded in...

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The Power Vision 3 is available . Talon 1000x with full performance exhaust from HMF, Snorkel from Warrior, and Throttle Body Plate replacement from pwrTune. Power Vision was from HMF and came with tune for their exhaust, picked up the tune from pwrTune their Stage 3INT + Full Exhaust / Intake Mod covered all of the mods and was built on the HMP full performance exhaust and is doing fine so far. In addition, HMF welded a second bung (no charge) for the wideband) 2 sensor. The Power Vision can display 4 different gauges simultaneously and you can select form a total of 4 different displays -- I was amazed at all of the items you can monitor in real time and the added benefit of logging data and sending it to your tuner as well. Inspected the plugs after 50 hours and no problems with ceramic isolators and color looked fine. NOTE: When you change tunes it does run funny for a couple of minutes then settles down and AFR and Lamda move to where they should be -- may backfire one or two times.

Hay Idiot, I have not used the launch mode all of the power gained from the tune I gave back when I installed the 35x10x15x warriors but I do like the new ride. I must admit using launch with the tires might be rough on the clutch and not sure if I want to even go there. What do you think?

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Careful with that pwrTune, mine appears to be running lean with a very similar setup/tune so I mounted my gopro and went for a spin. My pipes are glowing cherry red all the way to the mufflers. Andy says this is normal, HMF says it is not so I invested in a Wide Band and will be taking some readings as soon as I get the Bung welded in...

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Hi HavasuDave, let know when you get the bung welded in place and the results of your log files. HMF placed the bung next to the original narrow band O2 sensor, I can also log files for an additional comparison if that will help. I do want a safe tune. Have you gone back to the HMF tune? or are you running the pwrTune?
 

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Love to see photos of the instruments you are talking about
When I get home I will send a picture, you have the ability to split the DYNOJET screen into quarters and display a different parameter in each quadrant. For the first screen I selected Lamda, AFR, RPMs and MPH. Then you can configure the remaining 3 screens with different information and switch between them on the fly. Sounds more complicated than it actually is.
 

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Hi HavasuDave, let know when you get the bung welded in place and the results of your log files. HMF placed the bung next to the original narrow band O2 sensor, I can also log files for an additional comparison if that will help. I do want a safe tune. Have you gone back to the HMF tune? or are you running the pwrTune?
It is currently parked until I get some time to sort it out. I bought my PV3 directly from Pwrtune and paid for his tunes so I do not have the HMF tunes. I downloaded the Dynojet tunes but they are all locked too. I suspect all these tunes are very similar because of the way the Talon uses a limited narrow band O2.

Andy at Pwrtune said he would look at my datalogs but said any custom tuning would cost me. Needless to say, if HIS tune is running lean and he wants to charge me for something I already paid for, he can take his services and go climb a tree.

He will get ONE chance to make it right.
 

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It is currently parked until I get some time to sort it out. I bought my PV3 directly from Pwrtune and paid for his tunes so I do not have the HMF tunes. I downloaded the Dynojet tunes but they are all locked too. I suspect all these tunes are very similar because of the way the Talon uses a limited narrow band O2.

Andy at Pwrtune said he would look at my datalogs but said any custom tuning would cost me. Needless to say, if HIS tune is running lean and he wants to charge me for something I already paid for, he can take his services and go climb a tree.

He will get ONE chance to make it right.
:) How have you determined Andy's tune is lean? What is the condition of the plugs? I will send Andy my log files and he was happy to review them. Locking tunes is normal practice, it removes the temptation to play with them. Currently I have multiple tunes from Andy and HMF. and of course they are locked. HMF is just for the performance exhaust and does not take into account the intake modifications. Do get the log files they will help figure out what is going on.
 

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:) How have you determined Andy's tune is lean? What is the condition of the plugs? I will send Andy my log files and he was happy to review them. Locking tunes is normal practice, it removes the temptation to play with them. Currently I have multiple tunes from Andy and HMF. and of course they are locked. HMF is just for the performance exhaust and does not take into account the intake modifications. Do get the log files they will help figure out what is going on.
I never said it was, I said it "appears' to be and you will notice I use the word "if" a lot. I suspect I am running lean because...
  1. When cold, pipes are dark blue all the way to the muffler. HMF says they should only be blue for the first 10 inches, maybe even 15 but NEVER the entire pipe. This prompted me to take the gopro video and was shocked when i reviewed the glowing red footage.
  2. Pipes glow cherry red "like the pic" all the way to the mufflers and HMF says they should only glow for the first 10 inches, maybe even 15" but NEVER the entire pipe. Hell, the mufflers are starting to discolor too and that is absolutely not correct.
  3. I have the HMF high flow full exhaust, Pwrtune throttle plate, free flowing intake and I am no faster than my friends 100% STOCK machine. We have drag raced multiple times before and after the mods and there is no noticeable difference (except I now make a little more noise). He has better sand tires than I do and he beats me by a car length every time. Every race has been almost identical, where is my advertised 10 HP gain?
  4. Fuel mileage at the dunes went from 11 to 13 and I thought it would have gone the other way.
Just one of these by itself would not really worry me but all 4? That is just too much evidence, something isn't right and by the above evidence, it APPEARS it is lean to me.

Plugs look ok but that only indicates the last few seconds of running so the idle circuit looks ok but that is not really relevant. I have not done a mid or full throttle shut down (and never will) to look at the plug because plug reading to determine proper AFR is garbage science and I just invested money in real science (wideband) to do that.

I completely understand the reasoning behind locking tunes (both monetarily and liability), that is not the point and I don't give a rats ass if they lock their tunes, as long as they work. If (again I use the word IF) Andy sold me a garbage tune then he needs to fix it or refund me the $100 he charged me for it. I don't like paying for something I didn't get.

This is the last I will post on this forum about this (or any other issue for that matter). I have no use for multiple forums for the same thing (especially when most of the members are the same people on both forums) and I am tired of reading the same stuff twice so any further information will be posted on the "other" Honda forum.
 

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Sweet, what do you think of the launch mode coupled with super heavy tires? Rough on the clutch?
It gets those 32's spinning with no problem, but I would think any time you are dumping the clutch on any vehicle it would be hard on the clutch. It is not some thing I will use much any how as I have had it on my YXZ for 3 years and rarely use it, but with that said it is a nice option to have.
 

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Thanks, and I sent my tune to Andy, also pulled out the thermal temp gauge to use this weekend. How is the work with Dynojet coming along? Must me super nice to get work with them.
 

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Hi Idiot and thanks, it must me super working with Dynojet. I sent my log file to Andy this afternoon and looking forward to what he says. Again thanks for the information on the launch control, am sure with 32 or smaller it is bound to help. I must admit I do not think I will use it with the 35s as the consequences might be a bit costly.
 
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