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Who has done anything to their 1000 4 Live Valve shocks, springs and/or valving? What did you do, and who did it? Are you satisfied with the results? What kind of riding do you do? My machine is very hard riding over the stutter bumps and the suspension does not get to use all of its travel. It also pogo sticks from front to rear and should absorb the bumps much better. Most of my riding is in the desert over fire roads, trails, and rocky terrain. I am looking to make my ride a more pleasurable one at lower speeds (below 20 mph), where most of my riding is performed. I just sold an RZR 1000 4 that all I had to do was change out the tender springs, front and rear to make it ride exceptionally well. I totally prefer the Talon 4 seater over the RZR, with the exception of the suspension that I definitely want to correct. I'd love to hear from any and all of you who have done anything to make this real shortcoming in the car history.....!!
 

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I have the same issue, I called Shock Therapy and they said they are working on it??
I had mine completely redone by them around 4 months ago (shortly after I put this post up) and the difference is amazing. My suspension works as it should, finally !! Steve Feick did mine and and what an awesome job he did.
 

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I’m curious as to what you had done? I just got my live valve a couple months ago and I think the suspension is great. I don’t expect floating like a Cadillac on real rough terrain? Maybe I’m wrong....
 

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I’m curious as to what you had done? I just got my live valve a couple months ago and I think the suspension is great. I don’t expect floating like a Cadillac on real rough terrain? Maybe I’m wrong....
Like so many Talon owners complain, mine was very harsh in the studder bumps and in choppy, rocky terrain that is found on fire roads, mountain and desert trails. The rear end would pogo stick and push hard when going over moguls and ruts, The front end felt like it was mounted on struts and beat me and the machine Up badly. It made my ride terrible and destroyed my enjoyment factor enormously. My wife did not want to go with me most of the time because of the harshness in the ride. This Talon is not my first UTV. I initially had a two seater Wildcat that I had for three years before I traded it for a 1000 RZR 4 seater. Both of those had very acceptable suspension. I replaced the tender springs on the RZR and loved the suspension afterwards. Then I traded the RZR for the Talon Live Valve 4 seater because of the transmission and no belt drive. I really like it, but the suspension was a train wreck.

So, to answer your question, I took the car to Shock Therapy in Phoenix, AZ. They totally re-valved all 4 shocks and installed 4 new tender springs and 4 main springs that were rated for my particular car and what was added for accessories. What an amazing difference it made !! I feel the money spent was totally worth it. The ride is so much better and the machine handles beautifully in all terrain situations and is very predictable, without any rear end pushing (pogo sticking), while the front end goes over anything with ease. The suspension actually works as opposed to how it was from the factory. I hope this answered your question.
 

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Could you message me a rough idea for price? I’m in MN which does not make it ideal, but I may go that route later. Thanks
 

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Could you message me a rough idea for price? I’m in MN which does not make it ideal, but I may go that route later. Thanks
Right at $1400 parts and labor. Hope this helps.
 

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Like so many Talon owners complain, mine was very harsh in the studder bumps and in choppy, rocky terrain that is found on fire roads, mountain and desert trails. The rear end would pogo stick and push hard when going over moguls and ruts, The front end felt like it was mounted on struts and beat me and the machine Up badly. It made my ride terrible and destroyed my enjoyment factor enormously. My wife did not want to go with me most of the time because of the harshness in the ride. This Talon is not my first UTV. I initially had a two seater Wildcat that I had for three years before I traded it for a 1000 RZR 4 seater. Both of those had very acceptable suspension. I replaced the tender springs on the RZR and loved the suspension afterwards. Then I traded the RZR for the Talon Live Valve 4 seater because of the transmission and no belt drive. I really like it, but the suspension was a train wreck.

So, to answer your question, I took the car to Shock Therapy in Phoenix, AZ. They totally re-valved all 4 shocks and installed 4 new tender springs and 4 main springs that were rated for my particular car and what was added for accessories. What an amazing difference it made !! I feel the money spent was totally worth it. The ride is so much better and the machine handles beautifully in all terrain situations and is very predictable, without any rear end pushing (pogo sticking), while the front end goes over anything with ease. The suspension actually works as opposed to how it was from the factory. I hope this answered your question.
So did this solve the bucking of the rear end? Is that what you mean by pogo sticking ? Was looking at getting a R live valve.

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So did this solve the bucking of the rear end? Is that what you mean by pogo sticking ? Was looking at getting a R live valve.

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Yes, that is what it did, along with taking the harshness away. Absolutely worth the money spent !! Some others have just replaced springs, but the real and larger problem lies with the valving. The springs are necessary, as well, because the stock spring rate is not anywhere close to being right either. So the combination of both is absolutely necessary to make everything work together, as it should !!
 

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Maybe buying a stantard 1000X4 and having the stocks done makes more sense. Unless you need launch control...
 
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