I"M having trouble shifting into low range. Adjusted cable but not any better. Any ideas.
I'd suggest taking it back to your dealership and demanding that they fix the problem before your's ends up in the service department for the next half a year like mine with chewed up transmission! I'm just hoping Honda will fix it since its just 11 months old. They said it would take over a month just to get a response from honda when they turn it in to them to make a decision! Meanwhile its the best time of the year to ride and me and my wife.....we're walking after paying $20K 11 months ago! I own a big farm and fix equipment everyday and I can tell you first hand that everything built these days is trash compared to what it was 20 years ago and that includes HONDA PRODUCTS! My industrial equipment used to last 20-30 years and now your lucky to get 1-2 years out of it if that! Some of it don't last 6 months! So if you are having trouble, you better take it in now before you are walking like me! At this point I'm wishing I would have bought a Polaris or Yamaha! I own a Polaris sportsman 850 and a Yamaha Grizzly 700 and they've never given us a seconds trouble! I don't believe for one second that Honda is any better quality these days than any of the rest of them. I own all of them and right now I have 3 broken honda's and none of the others have broke yet! I'm sure they will at some point! Just my experience after owning all this stuff for the past 35 years.
First, I want you to know that we love our talon, its been fun to drive and we really don't have any regrets as long as they'll pay for the repairs.I adjusted my shifter cable and oiled all parts of the cable. All is good I"ve got over 3000 miles on it and like it. There are a few things I changed on it to better things.
This is just the sub transmission and I am in the process of sending it off to COPS to have it bullet proofed and add reduction to just low gear. About 2 grand for the work. If I only fixed the bare minimum I could get by with about $600 but then nothing heat treated no new cut gears... I figured I would spend the money now. That is with me doing all of the removal and installation. Have a dealer do it and it would be sky high.I don't mind changing a belt every few years, but a transmission? I don't think so! Thanks for the pics, but Honda is gonna have to step up and do the work and pay for it. I already threw down $20,000 11 months ago! Once mine is repaired I'm gonna sell it and get a Yamaha RMAX or a Polaris General XP.
Hey man, I hope you get it fixed and it gives you years of enjoyment. I put my trust in Honda and they really let me down on this deal. I can't believe with their reputation that they'd put a cheap badly designed tranny in their most expensive machines. My wife and I bought this thing last year for our 31st wedding anniversary. We were gonna get a pioneer 1000 but I looked across the lot and said, lets go sit in one of those and see how it feels ( we are 50). After sitting in it and driving it, I looked at my wife who was in love with the machine and I said, oh what the heck, we always buy machines for work, lets just buy something once in our life that we can just have fun in. We had considered Yamaha and Polaris but we felt that Honda was more reliable with the transmission and we'd be able to ride this thing on our 50th anniversary! Now I don't know what to do with it. I'm afraid honda will do the bare minimum to get it rolling and eventually it'll go out again and there will be no warranty to cover it. So I'm kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place on this deal. I have a lot more trust in Yamaha and Polaris than I used too since we've owned some of their 4 wheeler's the past 2 years with zero problems and no repairs. We don't abuse our machines so a belt is gonna last us a lot longer than it will the young wild rider who thinks their machine can go through anything. While they are stuck in 4 feet of mud, my wife and I just shake our heads and "Go Around" the mud holes that require wenches to make it through. I don't mean to sound so negative in these post, but its hard for me to explain how frustrated I am with Honda going cheap in these expensive machines.This is just the sub transmission and I am in the process of sending it off to COPS to have it bullet proofed and add reduction to just low gear. About 2 grand for the work. If I only fixed the bare minimum I could get by with about $600 but then nothing heat treated no new cut gears... I figured I would spend the money now. That is with me doing all of the removal and installation. Have a dealer do it and it would be sky high.
The problem I have with all these sub transmission problems is that it can all be avoided. It is not going to give you a problem if the cable was adjusted properly from the get-go and stays in proper adjustment then that sub transmission will last you for thousands and thousands of miles. Longer than other brands. The problem is is some peoples came from the dealership not adjusted properly and then most people never adjusted it until they had the bang. That is too late to adjust it. Yes it may not be able to handle very many bangs but it can handle anything you throw at it if you've never had it bang. There are people with 20,000 mi of off-road use on their Honda Talon with zero problems. There are not other brands that I've ever heard you can say that about. Every machine has its issues but Honda and Yamaha are still the best in my opinion. And in my experience.
It does stink for people that have had this problem and didn't realize how important it is to have their cable adjusted properly. But the fact is you won't have a problem if you keep it adjusted right.
Good idea to check I did and no problem, but it can happen anyway. I drive hard and rock crawl as well. No excuses from me just that I have not found a cure all other than upgrading the sub transmission, I will see. By the way even with an upgraded sub transmission it is still very important to make sure the shifter is adjusted properly. If in doubt remove the shift cable and shift manually on the sub transmission leaver, eliminate any guess work and also allows you to set for neutral, hook it back up and adjust with neutral in the center of the slot. I rock crawl and that is a bit taxing on all of the running gear as well. When it comes back I expect to find the next point of failure!The problem I have with all these sub transmission problems is that it can all be avoided. It is not going to give you a problem if the cable was adjusted properly from the get-go and stays in proper adjustment then that sub transmission will last you for thousands and thousands of miles. Longer than other brands. The problem is is some peoples came from the dealership not adjusted properly and then most people never adjusted it until they had the bang. That is too late to adjust it. Yes it may not be able to handle very many bangs but it can handle anything you throw at it if you've never had it bang. There are people with 20,000 mi of off-road use on their Honda Talon with zero problems. There are not other brands that I've ever heard you can say that about. Every machine has its issues but Honda and Yamaha are still the best in my opinion. And in my experience.
It does stink for people that have had this problem and didn't realize how important it is to have their cable adjusted properly. But the fact is you won't have a problem if you keep it adjusted right.
actually it is your responsibility to check the cable. If you read the manual it even says that. do you never check the oil in your car and if the oil runs out before an oil change do you blame the oil change guy for not coming to your house and checking the oil every thousand miles to make sure that you have the proper lever level of oil? The answer that is no. Honda put in the manual to check the cable and if you do check it you will not have a problem. I am sorry that you are having problems but the reason Honda is not willing to replace the sub transmission is because it's not a problem for people following their directions and adjusting the cable. That is why after thousands of miles of abusive testing that they did they didn't have a problem because they adjusted the cable. They put that in the manual and if you choose to not follow it then that is your own ignorance and it is not Hondas ignorance. Yes I believe the shift cable should have been a rod like Polaris does use but that does not make it weak It just makes it needing adjustment to keep it within its working operation zone. This is not an excuse this is just the facts. And I have off-roaded Jeeps most of my life and I can tell you that my Honda Talon can go places and take abuse that my Jeep could never take.It's not my responsibility to adjust that cable! Don't make excuses, this is totally Honda's fault. I can stand on the edge of a cliff all day long too as long as I don't fall! Their reputation is ruined with me after this. How is the customer to know to adjust the cable? The first indication most people have that anything is wrong is the bang you talk about. Inexcusable on Honda and their dealers! Ours did that shit 2 minutes after we rolled it off the trailer brand new. At the 120 mile service, I told them what was going on. They said they adjusted it but apparently they didn't get it done right. I then tried adjusting it and it was better for a while. But it was on its way to the grave yard at that point, I just didn't know it yet. As for other machines not lasting, well I know farmers around here who have run Polaris rangers for 10 years and have not even changed belts! Is Polaris as good as Honda, no, not as a whole! But what this proves is that if you take care of them they'll last. In the end, they are all made like crap these days and I suppose I rolled the dice and lost a 20 thousand dollar bet! I have a 2002 Jeep TJ wrangler X with 132,000 miles. Got it used for $8,500. It goes just about anywhere the talon will. 18 years old and going strong! Talon bought new for $20,000, made it to 1,200 miles. 11 months old...already in the nursing home!
You just keep on drinking that koolaid Hometeam.The first indication people have that anythings wrong is the bang you talked about. Its inexcusable on Honda and their dealers! Ours did that crap 2 minutes after we rolled it off the trailer brand new.
Lol! The funny thing is is I own right now 2 other brands and have owned other brands also. So unlike you (I am assuming) I've tasted most every other brand of Kool-Aid and it tastes like crap. My Polaris that I own doesn't leave a weekend of off-roading without needing to be fixed. Every Polaris that we ride with I have either towed it for 45 minutes to an hour out of the trails or I have gone and picked up the truck to help them. Once again not Kool-Aid but real life experiences. I currently own a Honda, Yamaha, and Polaris.... I also run the living piss out of my Honda. I hit every black that I can find and I hit them hard. It has been on its side, on its roof and buried in mud and water. I also did that with my 2 Honda pioneers that I owned before this and the only thing that ruined a pioneer was hitting a tree at 60 mph. So I guess you can say the Kool-Aid does taste good and it's always been there when I wanted to drink it. And I can't say that for the other brands. Actually two weeks ago in West Virginia I spent six hours getting the Yamaha out of the trail. Both the Hondas will still running strong. There are people with blinders on I'm just not one of them. I actually was a fan of the other brands until I finally bought a Honda and quit fixing it. To each there own!You just keep on drinking that koolaid Hometeam.
Not everyone uses those Honda blinders.