Anyone have issues when driving at speeds between 8-20mph; not very smooth at speeds between 8-15; tried going to low, but too high for low and its was much more jumpy. I went to paddle shifters but still had some jumping back and forth in that range, any insight on how to make it a little more smooth.
Low trail speeds
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Are you using manual shifting or just staying on auto?
99% of the time I'm in auto.
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The only way to smooth it out 100% is to buy a rubber band machine and that is not a good trade off to me. I also own a 2017 Yamaha YXZ SS and it is more jumpy than the Talon. You will get better at managing it with more seat time, I also keep my foot up against the tranny tunnel ( yes i know there is not a tranny in there, just don't know how else to describe it) while you are pressing the accelerator pedal and that helps. May be the aftermarket will help us?
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The solution is to hold your foot steady... This is not a machine problem. Push you knee and foot to the center console when going over bumpy terrain at slow speeds while keeping your heal on the floor. Your right pinky to should touch the wall next to it, if you do this it will be smooth.
This is a physics issue, you are bouncing around because of rough terrain so it is up to you to hold your foot steady... OR you can just hold it to the floor
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I'd have to argue with you about where the blame lies! Read your own response and explain how that's a not a design problem. Your right about how to try and overcome the issue, but, that's a design problem that isn't present on other SXSs.The solution is to hold your foot steady... This is not a machine problem. Push you knee and foot to the center console when going over bumpy terrain at slow speeds while keeping your heal on the floor. Your right pinky to should touch the wall next to it, if you do this it will be smooth.
This is a physics issue, you are bouncing around because of rough terrain so it is up to you to hold your foot steady... OR you can just hold it to the floor
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I disagree. Belt drive and direct drive DCT SXS's are different types of machines. Belt drives MUST have a delay and smoothing in their throttle due to there design, the belt itself causes a delay and less responsive throttle. Just because belt driven sxs's are less responsive does not mean all other types of sxs's should be that way. If you smooth the throttle on a DCT machine you are eliminating one of the main positives you get from having that transmission.
DCT's do not need to limit power and smooth throttle inputs on landing after jumps or in mud or anywhere else because you have no fear of snapping or smoking a belt. If people don't like the "connected" direct-drive feel of the talon they shouldn't buy one and instead go buy a rubberband powered sxs. Anybody who has driven a MANUAL transmission on any machine with a clutch knows that the way the Talon feels is normal for that type of drivetrain.
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The talon has a learning trans, it adapts to how you ride, like Allison in C2500HD. if you manually short shift it in AT it will learn that and start doing it in AT. if it is a new unit and new rider thats jerky, it leans that two. It will adapt to how you ride. From talking with Honda Teck rep at the show in Columbus O/H you can reset it. I leave my R in AT and manually up shift to 2 and ride most of the time in Second. and i find the gearing is good, not jerky at all. I think if i run 30" 32' tires 1 gear would be about right as well.
I have found that the Talon is all ways down shifting to keep it self in a lower gear so it will not over heat the clutch packs. even in manual it auto down shifts.
I have found that the Talon is all ways down shifting to keep it self in a lower gear so it will not over heat the clutch packs. even in manual it auto down shifts.
it seems to smooth out some with bigger tires like 30" or 32". Not sure why, but my R is pretty good in high range. I ifeel it is jerky / very responsive in low range cause has power with that gearing. I have had RZR 1000, YXZ and now the Talon and they are all very different animals each with it's own good and bad points
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Driving a car on a smooth road vs OFFROAD where there is lots of bouncing around cannot be compared against each other. They are two completely different environments.
Also, to your point I have 2 dct cars at this moment a gli and a gti and they are both touchy throttles and you have to be a little more deliberate to be smooth if you accelerate hard and hit a bump the throttle will be pressed and the engine will respond swiftly to that action.
fixed it for me.
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Thanks for sharing your mod. I am going to try that too. Anything to help keep your right foot stable in low speed bumpy terrain should help. With the more direct connection between engine and wheels in a DCT ( compared to CVT ) As a new owner, it seems to act like a "bump stock" positive feedback loop unless you are able to hold a very steady pedal foot.
I tried to post a link, but it was blocked, due to low post count. A internet search should work...
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