[BlueDog1210]

I am looking for any and all information on an Internal Gear Reduction unit for the Honda Talon 1000. So far all I have found is an Internal Gear Reduction unit form Reduction Boss Machining at 25%. Anyone have any experience with gear reductions? I am not looking for the ones that are at the wheels as they expand the width several inches and the trails I ride on are very tight now. The pricing looks to be about $1200 for parts and will require core charges. I have helped do a Polaris replacing reverse chain, all new seals and bearings and installed gear reduction at same time. I think the Talon will be a bigger challenge. In any case, if you know or have any experience let everyone know.

 

[Jefferson87]

I'd be interested in info also.

I'm pretty sure this reduces the over all gearing, high and low?

I'd like to find something that only reduces low range.

 

[BlueDog1210]

That would be nice, for now I went ahead and purchased the MPH correction module (fixed and no adjustments) from the only company that makes an IGR. Am on the list for the parts but that will be another month or so. Also started working with a company that makes the speedohealer to come up with one for the Talon that can be updated for future tire changes as well. Comes from a motorcycle company and hope to have that finished Monday. FYI, the speed sensor is located on the 4 wheel drive clutch. In any case I will post as I go forward with the IGR project. Very difficult to get accurate information for now.

 

[BlueDog1210]

Parts should be available in another two weeks. I also found an installer in Florida a little over 300 miles away -- just in case I get cold feet.

 

[BlueDog1210]

Update, I am first on the list and the parts will be available the first of March. I think there are two Talon 1000 R already, but may just be that mine will be the first Talon 1000 X with the IGR. Mine will be a 25% set of geare. The primary reason is that I am not shifting into 6 the gear in high. Not such a big deal as the Talon is still running 70 MPH in 5th. Think this reduction is correct as the tuner gives about 11% boost in HP and Torque, just a bit shy of enough torque to spin the 35" Warriors. This should truly be felt in low and with another gear available I am interested to see the final results. The initial parts price is $950 and Reduction Boss Machining is the company that produces the gears.

 

[Jefferson87]

25% should put you almost perfectly back to stock with the 28s. ?

 

[BlueDog1210]

Another update: After much grinding of my teeth I have decided to get Reds Off-Road to to the installation. Fortunate they are located about 3 to 4 hours north of my location. Looking over the maintenance manual you do not have to remove the engine from the car but there is a lot to removing the engine spacer. It is one of the parts that is machined to provide clearance for the new clutch hub and associated gears. Just too many O-rings and small parts. Process takes a day if everything goes well and longer is one of the small parts or O-rings is damaged.

 

[BlueDog1210]

25% should put you almost perfectly back to stock with the 28s. ?

I think you are correct at the MPH correction turned out to be +25.1 almost spot on. Can.t wight to see the kind of acceleration and I am hoping not too much drop in MPH in High. Low should realy shine in the mud! (If that is possisble)

 

[Jefferson87]

I think you are correct at the MPH correction turned out to be +25.1 almost spot on. Can.t wight to see the kind of acceleration and I am hoping not too much drop in MPH in High. Low should realy shine in the mud! (If that is possisble)

You'll probably gain top speed, you said you can't use 6th now.

 

[BlueDog1210]

If it stays around 70 that would be super.

 

[BlueDog1210]

If parts are in, will try to get the install done 1st week in March.

 

[BlueDog1210]

Red's Off Road will do the installation. This a first for me, getting someone to install parts. They come highly recommended and are in Florida.

 

[BlueDog1210]

Reduction Boss is the only company I am aware of that makes the parts kit. They modify the engine spacer to increase case clearance, make the smaller gears and modify the clutch housing. The kit I ordered will result in a 25% reduction. After install I will evaluate portals 15% to gain 4 inches height and possibly larger tires.

 

[BlueDog1210]

SuperATV offers a frame stiffener and I recommend adding it with any big wheel additions even if you do not use portals or IGRs. They are inexpensive compared to many of the add on items and will help protect your frame. Just a bit of insurance for the extra stress placed on your frame.

 

[SuperATV]

Definitely. Save your frame and frame tabs with a little preventative maintenance.

 

[BlueDog1210]

Just confirmed install. Jeremy (Reduction Boss) will have the parts sent to Landon (Red's Off-Road) and the install is scheduled for the first week in March. I look forward to getting this project finished and getting to the first test run with the new IGR 25%. I am expecting to get sixth gear back in high and hope to retain the top end at 60 MPH or more.

 

[BlueDog1210]

Purchased frame stiffener from SuperATF to help keep the tabs in place.

 

[Sierra Roller]

I am looking for any and all information on an Internal Gear Reduction unit for the Honda Talon 1000. So far all I have found is an Internal Gear Reduction unit form Reduction Boss Machining at 25%. Anyone have any experience with gear reductions? I am not looking for the ones that are at the wheels as they expand the width several inches and the trails I ride on are very tight now. The pricing looks to be about $1200 for parts and will require core charges. I have helped do a Polaris replacing reverse chain, all new seals and bearings and installed gear reduction at same time. I think the Talon will be a bigger challenge. In any case, if you know or have any experience let everyone know.

Did the wife open up your pocket book? Haha

 

[BlueDog1210]

Just a little, frame stiffener should get in tomorrow and IGS is mostly paid for. I will see how the performance is and figure out what I need to do next. Seems like there is an never ending list. On thing the turbo is a no go with the limited tire combinations, location of intake, and location of intercooler. Portals? Upgrade suspension Fox Live Valve not even sure if they do that until 2021 for 1000x. SuperATV has monster mud tires -- 42s and 44s wonder what that would take. Oh well Linda will have to put her stamp of approval = new dress, makeover, Dooney and Bourke ...

 

[BlueDog1210]

Frame Stiffener arrived and it is definitely a stronger part. I will put it on in the morning and get the talon ready for the trip to Red's Off-Road on Monday for the IGR installation. This part is a must if you go with bigger/heaver tiers.