Alignment knocked out?

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Discussion Starter · Dec 1, 2019

Ok. First post. I’m not new. Very experienced in off road. Have owned several side by sides over the years. But this one has me clueless. So I just bought a R model. First trip. I hit a dip that was a half tire drop in. I slowed to about 5 mph at most when it contacted. I felt a click in the steering. Alignment went out but there was never tire turn feedback to the steering wheel. There is no damage to vehicle. Nothing bent, nothing out of place. Everything is perfect. However, the steering wheel did turn to the left about 25% to go straight. On another note that passenger tire does have the known rim scratch in it which I noticed prior to this episode. Weird, for the life of me I cannot see what it rubbed against. Anyways, I did a poor mans alignment to get the wheels straight again as it was noticeable after the bump.(string around all tires).
Only thing I can see is if the rack and pinion is a two tail system and the gear jumped a tooth? I’m totally lost.
That was day one of a 7day weekend...the rest of the weekend it never went out of alignment again..and I was much harder on it as the days went by.
Anyone know what the heck? Because I’m totally lost to understand...

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19PSU88

· #2 · Jan 26, 2020

Hi, just took mine out for first time - hit a small stump - not even 5 miles on machine - steering wheel is now out 25% to go straight.

WTF!!!!

All paint marks aligned. Nothing is loose.

Wheels look parallel - anyone have any clues ?

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scottymac

· #3 · Jan 28, 2020 (Edited)

If you grab your steering wheel, and push and pull it, does it click or move? IF so, pop the center cover off with a fine flat screw driver, remove the center nut ( I can't remember the size, probably 12mm or 14mm), center it and tighten it back down. Several Talons have shipped with the steering wheel sloppy loose, or running at 20 degrees off.However, after rides, if you get adapted to the 1960's TV Batman angled view, then keep your steering wheel at an angle. LOL

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19PSU88

· #4 · Jan 28, 2020

Lol

Already moved steering wheel. It was locked down solid when I first checked - never was a paint check on bolt.
Just trying to understand the technical reason for this.
This X has under 5 miles, drove it around block a couple of times to settle new springs and first time I took it off pavement hit a small bump (stump), wheel is off.

I’ll get a string around it and get some straight edges in the wheels tonite and check toe, etc.
This is as bizarre as that camera angle - lol.

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scottymac

· #5 · Jan 28, 2020 (Edited)

19PSU88 said:
Lol

Already moved steering wheel. It was locked down solid when I first checked - never was a paint check on bolt.
Just trying to understand the technical reason for this.
This X has under 5 miles, drove it around block a couple of times to settle new springs and first time I took it off pavement hit a small bump (stump), wheel is off.

I’ll get a string around it and get some straight edges in the wheels tonite and check toe, etc.
This is as bizarre as that camera angle - lol.

That is odd. I know when you do the alignment, the suspension and tire grip on the surface can mess it up. I bought myself a $100 worth of Car Rollers and push the small wheels sideways (90 degrees to the Talon tires) and push the suspension up and down. See pictures (a set under my YXZ ). I use accurate laser measure (non Bosch products like Johnson or Leica) that does decimal points, and measure the front and back of the inside of the front rims (don't measure to the tire) to get an exact number while I have the steering wheel locked down. I set it at 0 degrees, then add the toe. If one of your springs has a different tension, or position, these rollers/skates help reduce the problem by allowing the suspension to travel easily and not get bound, which can not be done if the tires are sitting on hard surface. The other advantage of these Car Rollers or Car Skates is that if you have your Talon sitting for a while it reduces the flat spots on the tires and makes it easy to spin and move your Talon around in the garage.

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off road

· #6 · Feb 25, 2021

I know I am resurrecting an old post, but wondering how it turned out? My steering obviously jumped a tooth or maybe two, steering goes way to the left (until rim rubs) but not right, and steering wheel turned 25 degrees....but I have the Live Valve and the computer can't find top-dead-center anymore for the steering angle sensor.

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G.Bell

· #7 · Mar 19, 2021

You need to find center of the steering rack and aligne toe afterwards that will get you close. If they can't get it to re center afterwards its the steering angle sensor!

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MasterSheep89

· #8 · May 26, 2021

Same problem here. I got a 4 year warranty on my Talon R so it's going back to the dealer tomorrow. I'll post here if they find anything

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Btwb

· #9 · Aug 22, 2021

MasterSheep89 said:
Same problem here. I got a 4 year warranty on my Talon R so it's going back to the dealer tomorrow. I'll post here if they find anything

They every find anything out?

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MasterSheep89

· #10 · Feb 23, 2022

mine did this with about 100 miles on it. I just put a piece of red tape at center of my steering wheel and re aligned the entire front end with the wheel at center. Looking back it probably would have been easier to take the wheel off and align the splines to center, but im pretty sure my mother in law was in town that weekend so I needed something time consuming to do in the garage.

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