That is good feedback!! Thanks! How did you feel it felt in corners? Did you give up much/any corner stability?
1000 X and Shock Therapy at Moab
Just got home from 8 days riding in Moab with my Talon X. This was the maiden voyage with the X, post Shock Therapy Ride Improvement System, meaning springs and re-valving. Of course as you probably know, Shock Therapy determines springs and valving based on information provided by the customer, i.e. riding style/terrain, driver/passenger weight, options on the machine etc. Since most of my riding is slower speed trail riding on rough trails etc, and since I felt the X factory suspension was way to stiff, they adjusted my setup accordingly.
All I can say is Wow... what a difference! The ride quality is night and day from the factory setting. The Talon now soaks up the smaller rough rocky surfaces like a dream and articulates over the big stuff much much better. I have no doubt that had I done 8 days on the rough Moab terrain with the factory suspension I'd have put a For Sale sign on the Talon as soon as I got home and spent the next 6 mo. apologizing to my wife. Moab is rough, real rough in a lot of places, and the factory suspension would have beat us to death.
In all fairness, I had also changed out the factory tires for 10 ply 30x10x15 Kanati Mongrels prior to this trip too, so I can't really say how much of a role the tires alone might have had, and I'd also installed a lot of weight with a spare tire w/Tusk carrier, 1/2" full skid plate w/rock sliders, heavy Warn winch bumper and Warn Axon 5500, as well as a set of 4 point harnesses, all of which probably contributed to the improved experience!
I did find that the suspension on the softest and on the medium settings was pretty easy to bottom out when we got into the occasional whoop sections, but since I'm not really a high speed whoop rider, I'd gladly lose some whoop-ability for a more compliant ride in the rough stuff.
If any of you find the X, or he R for that matter, to be just too stiff, I'd highly recommend you spend the money and have the suspension tweaked to better suit your riding style and terrain. For me it was money well spent!
All I can say is Wow... what a difference! The ride quality is night and day from the factory setting. The Talon now soaks up the smaller rough rocky surfaces like a dream and articulates over the big stuff much much better. I have no doubt that had I done 8 days on the rough Moab terrain with the factory suspension I'd have put a For Sale sign on the Talon as soon as I got home and spent the next 6 mo. apologizing to my wife. Moab is rough, real rough in a lot of places, and the factory suspension would have beat us to death.
In all fairness, I had also changed out the factory tires for 10 ply 30x10x15 Kanati Mongrels prior to this trip too, so I can't really say how much of a role the tires alone might have had, and I'd also installed a lot of weight with a spare tire w/Tusk carrier, 1/2" full skid plate w/rock sliders, heavy Warn winch bumper and Warn Axon 5500, as well as a set of 4 point harnesses, all of which probably contributed to the improved experience!
I did find that the suspension on the softest and on the medium settings was pretty easy to bottom out when we got into the occasional whoop sections, but since I'm not really a high speed whoop rider, I'd gladly lose some whoop-ability for a more compliant ride in the rough stuff.
If any of you find the X, or he R for that matter, to be just too stiff, I'd highly recommend you spend the money and have the suspension tweaked to better suit your riding style and terrain. For me it was money well spent!
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No doubt it has more lean in the corners, but not unstable, at least in trail riding. I never did put it on the most firm setting, but since I don’t plan on racing, I found it good.
Ez, which skid plate did you go with I am looking.
I went with the Trail Armor 1/2” HDPE with rock sliders and trailing arm covers. Not cheap, but seriously stout and took a serious beating at Moab with hardly a scratch!
Thank you for the update on the changes to your Talon. I love my Trail Armor skid plate as well. It's the best. Mine are not as clean as yours eventhough I am running 32/10R-15 tires on my side by side but there are worth their weight in gold for the protection they have provided in the deserts in AZ and UT, Sand Hollow will test them for sure.
That's a nice looking lift you have there to go with your Talon. That would be outstanding to have.
That's a nice looking lift you have there to go with your Talon. That would be outstanding to have.
thanks for the info, both my brother in law and myself are having a conversation regarding this....we both have the Talon X and would certainly like to tame the ride a bit. This helps!Just got home from 8 days riding in Moab with my Talon X. This was the maiden voyage with the X, post Shock Therapy Ride Improvement System, meaning springs and re-valving. Of course as you probably know, Shock Therapy determines springs and valving based on information provided by the customer, i.e. riding style/terrain, driver/passenger weight, options on the machine etc. Since most of my riding is slower speed trail riding on rough trails etc, and since I felt the X factory suspension was way to stiff, they adjusted my setup accordingly.
All I can say is Wow... what a difference! The ride quality is night and day from the factory setting. The Talon now soaks up the smaller rough rocky surfaces like a dream and articulates over the big stuff much much better. I have no doubt that had I done 8 days on the rough Moab terrain with the factory suspension I'd have put a For Sale sign on the Talon as soon as I got home and spent the next 6 mo. apologizing to my wife. Moab is rough, real rough in a lot of places, and the factory suspension would have beat us to death.
In all fairness, I had also changed out the factory tires for 10 ply 30x10x15 Kanati Mongrels prior to this trip too, so I can't really say how much of a role the tires alone might have had, and I'd also installed a lot of weight with a spare tire w/Tusk carrier, 1/2" full skid plate w/rock sliders, heavy Warn winch bumper and Warn Axon 5500, as well as a set of 4 point harnesses, all of which probably contributed to the improved experience!
I did find that the suspension on the softest and on the medium settings was pretty easy to bottom out when we got into the occasional whoop sections, but since I'm not really a high speed whoop rider, I'd gladly lose some whoop-ability for a more compliant ride in the rough stuff.
If any of you find the X, or he R for that matter, to be just too stiff, I'd highly recommend you spend the money and have the suspension tweaked to better suit your riding style and terrain. For me it was money well spent!
I just added the Shock Therapy spring kit and 32 Carnivores and all I can say is wow ....... Best single mod i have made to any vehicle as of today ... best bang for your buck. I highly recommend the spring kit. Honda really messed up on the shocks on the talon but for $700 you can fix them.
Oh and as for speed ??? By GPS not speedo the Talon is still just as fast if not faster in the top end on 32's
Just got home from 8 days riding in Moab with my Talon X. This was the maiden voyage with the X, post Shock Therapy Ride Improvement System, meaning springs and re-valving. Of course as you probably know, Shock Therapy determines springs and valving based on information provided by the customer, i.e. riding style/terrain, driver/passenger weight, options on the machine etc. Since most of my riding is slower speed trail riding on rough trails etc, and since I felt the X factory suspension was way to stiff, they adjusted my setup accordingly.
All I can say is Wow... what a difference! The ride quality is night and day from the factory setting. The Talon now soaks up the smaller rough rocky surfaces like a dream and articulates over the big stuff much much better. I have no doubt that had I done 8 days on the rough Moab terrain with the factory suspension I'd have put a For Sale sign on the Talon as soon as I got home and spent the next 6 mo. apologizing to my wife. Moab is rough, real rough in a lot of places, and the factory suspension would have beat us to death.
In all fairness, I had also changed out the factory tires for 10 ply 30x10x15 Kanati Mongrels prior to this trip too, so I can't really say how much of a role the tires alone might have had, and I'd also installed a lot of weight with a spare tire w/Tusk carrier, 1/2" full skid plate w/rock sliders, heavy Warn winch bumper and Warn Axon 5500, as well as a set of 4 point harnesses, all of which probably contributed to the improved experience!
I did find that the suspension on the softest and on the medium settings was pretty easy to bottom out when we got into the occasional whoop sections, but since I'm not really a high speed whoop rider, I'd gladly lose some whoop-ability for a more compliant ride in the rough stuff.
If any of you find the X, or he R for that matter, to be just too stiff, I'd highly recommend you spend the money and have the suspension tweaked to better suit your riding style and terrain. For me it was money well spent!
Thanks for the update on the shocks....I have had my X for 2 summers now, living in MN, we only get a few months of good riding a year...but I have found that my shocks have mellowed a bit after the initial 500-1000 miles. I also reduce the air in my tires from 14 to 10 lbs, and that seemed to help as well. That being said, I am going to have my shocks done and add the same tires you went to, 30 inch Kanati Mongrels...having researched them at length this last spring, I believe they are a great multi purpose tire, and DOT rated. I appreciated reading your post and look forward to a better ride in my Talon!!Oh and as for speed ??? By GPS not speedo the Talon is still just as fast if not faster in the top end on 32's
Any issues with putting 32’s on an X?
no rubbing yet on 32’s but I’m sure it will a little in a bind. Just opened it up and gps was 80 mph
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